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 I have been thinking about this topic a lot lately, and I found this site while reasearching it.  This is just what I feel after reading what I have.  I belive that God has a will for every single person on this Earth,  It says in the Bible that he knows our every though, every single thought! He knows our inner self better than we know oursleves. If this is true then he knows what choices we will make...We have a choice, God knows the outcome though, but we do have that choice.  People say well if God knows what will happen then we dont' have free will, but God does give us free will.  I belive if he wants to know what will happen or what an outcome is than he has the ability to know, but he can also hold knowledge from himself if he wishes.  God doesn't want people to sin, God doesn't want people to fall from him, but that doesn't mean it can't happen.  This isn't because God creates people to die and suffer in hell because his will was that they don't go to heaven.  I can't really put into words what I'm trying to say or the point I'm getting across but I thought I would state my opinion.

                                                              Always His,
         
                                                                         Meg

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 For I know the plans I have for you," says the LORD. "They are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope. Jeremiah 29:11
 

[FromHimByHimForHim]

 /\ I AGREE!!!!!!!

[pastorscott45133]

 

I think the real question is do you believe the bible is the inspired work of God? IF so then that answers your question.

I have no doubts of the bible is the inspired words of God. That is why I study. Does God know everything? YES HE DOES. But does that mean he is controling our decisions? NO IT DOES NOT.

God knows we will come up to temptation. He also said that he would not allow us into a situation to hard to handle. Our decisions during these times is critical. Do we choose goodness in God. Or follow satan in evil. God has already set forth a cause and effect for the decisions we will make. We choose evil we will be destoyed by evil. We choose good we live forever.

I have been thinking about this topic a lot lately, and I found this site while reasearching it. This is just what I feel after reading what I have. I belive that God has a will for every single person on this Earth, It says in the Bible that he knows our every though, every single thought! He knows our inner self better than we know oursleves. If this is true then he knows what choices we will make...We have a choice, God knows the outcome though, but we do have that choice. People say well if God knows what will happen then we dont' have free will, but God does give us free will. I belive if he wants to know what will happen or what an outcome is than he has the ability to know, but he can also hold knowledge from himself if he wishes. God doesn't want people to sin, God doesn't want people to fall from him, but that doesn't mean it can't happen. This isn't because God creates people to die and suffer in hell because his will was that they don't go to heaven. I can't really put into words what I'm trying to say or the point I'm getting across but I thought I would state my opinion.

Always His,

Meg

Meg hits it on the nail. We have a choice and God knows the outcome of the decision we make. The same as David. The same as Sampson, The same as Israel. For knowledge wise, I believe that God knows that we will be tempted but what we choose in our scenario is up to us. God does not want us to choose bad and will place preachers and prophets and friends to help you in your decisions. that is why church is so important.

Meg, your opinion is correct by biblical history and biblical docterine.

For I know the plans I have for you," says the LORD. "They are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope. Jeremiah 29:11

God has plans and just like a choose your own adventure book his plans are in it. We can choose to walk in his plans or we can walk in satan's. The choice is yours.

Love in Christ,

Pastor Scott


 

[Sarah Leigh]

1 John 3:20

"whenever our hearts condemn us; for God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything"

[Shabdah]

...Israel had their path well lit. God placed a pillar of fire and a cloud to guide them much like the Holy Spirit guides us now.

... It's identical actually.

The "Pillar of Fire - and The Cloud" were Gods Presence e.g. Shekinah

"The Holy Spirit" (I will not use "ghost") ... Is likewise - Gods Presense ...

And as Gods Will, and Purpose(s) can only be known in Gods Presense;

It is wise to 'seek' it, and abide IN it.

best.

[Wilder]

I have no doubts of the bible is the inspired words of God. That is why I study. Does God know everything? YES HE DOES. But does that mean he is controling our decisions? NO IT DOES NOT.

I challenge this premisce. But generally, I tend to express my point poorly, as it is overly complex. Basically, every decision we make is based on certain factors (who we are as a person, our enviorment, ect). These factors were caused by previos events (two people having sex to give you your particular genetic code, ect.). Everything has a cause. These causes are traced back to Creation, according to your religion. An all powerful, all knowing entity would be able to discern what would cause what, and by creating the universe in the way he did, would set the chain reaction that is life into play in a way that he fully understood, and thus created by starting the enviorment. I hope someone will finally understand this. But I doubt it.

[GuitarGuy]

I think I get what you're saying. I think you're saying God did in fact affect everyone's actions by creating our environments and creating things that would cause certain reactions....like the fruit. He made it appealing to humans, they ate it, hey look we're sinners....I might have phrased it wrong but I think thats what you're getting at...

[Wilder]

No, you basically got it. Also, keep in mind that He made our brains. So He would know "well, I created Adam facing this direction, and I made a pretty bush over there, and I set up Adam's brain so that the bush is the most interesting thing around him, so his first action will be to go over there". The control is, I believe, absolute. You're still making your choices, but it's the choice God set the world up to cause you to make.

[mick]

dude it is almost like creating a game god thought before actions and said like

hmmm were should i put this tree how about right there

and

were should i put the first humen

[GuitarGuy]

This always was an interesting thread...

[theoriginalfootball]

you mentioned that god knows who will choose heaven or not. 

isn't that a form of predestination?  omg, are you a calvinist!?  that's so hot!
i looooove hypocrisy.

[bella247]

Of course God knows everything even before you thought about asking this god knew you would ask,so yea he know absoutly everything..

[beforHim]

I know this topic is old, but I'll give my two cents anyway. 

This might have already been said, but just in case it wasn't-

One big problem people have with God knowing everything (including the future) is that this seems to say that we are determined.  If God knows I will choose Him, then I can't do anything but choose Him.  Determinism (big word?)- everthinbg's already determined.

The reason why this doesn't work is the word "choose".  If Gos knows what we will freely choose, then how is He making us do anything but choose?  he's not.  We're doing the "anything but" part.  God's forknwledge of our free choices means that our choices, are, well, free!

Philosopizing is the coolest.